Archived System CR SCR102102-1X Detail |
Title: Dual Inventory of DSL tie cables in TIRKS and SWITCH/FOMS | |||||
CR Number |
Current Status Date |
Level of Effort |
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Area Impacted |
Products Impacted |
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SCR102102-1X |
Withdrawn 8/15/2007 |
3275 - 5450 | 3/ | Virtual and Physical Co-Location | Line Sharing, UNE |
Originator: Zulevic, Michael |
Originator Company Name: Covad |
Owner: Coyne, Mark |
Director: |
CR PM: Stecklein, Lynn |
Description Of Change |
Revised Request: Covad requests that beginning April 1, 2003, we have the capability to check the availability of or place orders to use our DS0 tie cables for either Line Sharing or UNE/second line DSL services. This capability would not be required for existing TIE cables that are used for Line Sharing, Line Splitting or Loop Splitting in conjunction with a Common Area Splitter Collocation arrangement. These TIE cables are cabled to the splitter port either directly or through a hard-wired arrangement using the existing 410 block. Currently, we must designate the type of service we intend to provide on each cable in advance and if we find we need to re-designate the use of a specific tie cable, we are assessed a cable reclassification charge. SBC currently provides the capability to check the availability of both Line Sharing and UNE/second line DSL services. Having to declare the use of tie cables in advance greatly inhibits our ability to efficiently use our investment in tie cable.
Expected Deliverable April 1, 2003
Original Request: Covad requests that our collocation DS0 tie cables be inventoried in both TIRKS and SWITCH/FOMS so that we can use our available inventory of tie cables for either Line Sharing or UNE/second line DSL services. Currently, we must designate the type of service we intend to provide on each cable in advance and if we find we need to re-designate the use of a specific tie cable, we are assessed a cable reclassification charge. The concept of dual inventorying has been proven in SBC and is no longer an issue. Having to declare the use of tie cables in advance greatly inhibits our ability to efficiently use our investment in tie cable.
Expected Deliverable Dec. 1, 2002
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Status History |
Date | Action | Description |
1/15/2003 | Additional Information | Crossover CR created from PC102102-1X |
2/20/2003 | Discussed at Monthly CMP Meeting | Discussed at February Systems CMP Monthly meeting; please see Systems CMP Distribution Package February CMP - Attachment B. |
2/21/2003 | Status Changed | Status changed from Evaluation to Pending Prioritization |
4/7/2003 | Release Ranking | 14.0 Prioritization- Ranked #21 out of 53 |
4/28/2003 | Release Ranking | Rank changed due to Late Adders- Ranked #22 |
5/30/2003 | Release Ranking | Rank changed due to Late Adders- Ranked #23 |
7/9/2003 | Status Changed | Status changed to pending prioritization with the release of IMA 14.0 Packaging. |
9/2/2003 | Release Ranking | 15.0 Prioritization- Ranked #37 out of 57 |
9/29/2003 | Release Ranking | 15.0 Revised Prioritization, due to Late Adder - Ranked #38 out of 58 |
11/5/2003 | Status Changed | Status changed to pending prioritization |
2/4/2004 | Release Ranking | 16.0 Prioritization- Ranked #31 out of 50 |
3/1/2004 | Release Ranking | IMA 16.0 Revised Prioritization, Late Adder Ranking - #32 out of 51 |
8/3/2004 | Release Ranking | 17.0 Prioritization- Ranked #17 out of 41 |
7/7/2005 | Additional Information | QPP will benefit with the implementation of this CR |
8/1/2005 | Release Ranking | 19.0 Prioritization- Ranked #9 out of 26 |
2/27/2006 | Release Ranking | 20.0 Prioritization- Ranked #13 out of 21 |
7/7/2006 | Status Changed | Status Changed to Pending Prioritization, for 21.0 Release. |
11/27/2006 | Release Ranking | IMA 21.0 Late Adder Ranking - #15 out of 20 |
4/2/2007 | Release Ranking | IMA 22.0 Prioritization- Ranked #08 out of 18 |
8/9/2007 | Status Changed | Status changed to Pending Withdrawal |
8/15/2007 | Status Changed | Status changed to Withdrawn |
8/15/2007 | Discussed at Monthly CMP Meeting | Discussed at the August Systems CMP Meeting - See Attachment G in the Distribution Package |
Project Meetings |
8/15/07 Systems CMP Meeting Mark Coyne-Qwest stated that Covad has agreed to withdraw this CR because the related products are now non-CMP. -- 8/9/07 E-mail from Covad That is satisfactory. Colette Davis Director, Govt. and External Affairs Covad Communications 1230 Peachtree Street NE Suite 1900 Atlanta, GA 30309 TN: 678.528.6817 Cell: 404.734.7982 Fax: 678.528.6807 codavis@covad.com --Original Message-- From: Stecklein, Lynn [mailto:Lynn.Stecklein@qwest.com] Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 11:28 AM To: Davis, Colette Subject: FW: Question re: SCR102102-1X Importance: High 8/9/07 E-mail Sent to Covad Hi Collette, Due to the identified products on this CR being non CMP, this CR will not appear on the IMA 23.0 candidate list. I have placed the CR in Pending Withdrawal status and the formal withdrawal will take place in the August CMP Meeting. Please let me know by COB, Friday, August 10th if you have any objections. Thanks, Lynn Stecklein Qwest Wholesale CMP
- From: Stecklein, Lynn Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 10:10 AM To: Davis, Colette Subject: Question re: SCR102102-1X Hi Collette, This is in regard to SCR102102-1X (Dual Inventory of DSL tie cables in TIRKS and SWITCH/FOMS). This CR was submitted by Covad in October of 2002 requesting changes on Line Sharing and UNE products. Many changes have occured since 2002 including the elimination of Line Sharing and UNE via CMP. These products are now available through Commercial Agreements. Because of these changes, would you be agreeable in withdrawing this CR? Thanks for your help in advance. Lynn Stecklein Qwest Wholesale CMP 2/16/05 Systems CMP Meeting - IMA 18.0 Candidate Summary Liz Balvin-Covad stated that this is Covad’s 2nd priority. 7/22/04 Systems CMP Meeting Jill Martain/Qwest stated that Qwest would distribute the ballot on July 27th, it is due back to Qwest on July 30th, and Qwest would email the initial prioritization list to the CLECs on August 3rd. There were no questions. John Berard/Covad stated that this was a high priority for Covad. 8/21/03 CMP Systems Meeting Liz Balvin/MCI stated that she spoke to Covad and that out of their three type choices, this one was the lowest. 01/15/03 - CMP Meeting Cook-Qwest presented the Qwest response. White-Qwest recommended the CR be placed in Evaluation status when it is crossed over. Zulevic-Covad stated that this was fine. The CR was crossed over to systems with a status of Evaluation. =========================================== Ad Hoc Meeting 1:00 PM (Mountain Time) / Monday, January 6, 2003 Attendees Matt White – Qwest Jeff Cook – Qwest Becky Neesen – Covad John Berard – Covad Kim Issacs – Eschelon Bonnie Johnson - Eschelon Sharon Van Meter – AT&T Introduction of Attendees White-Qwest welcomed all attendees and described the purpose of the meeting. He explained that Qwest and Covad had had further discussions about the request over the last several weeks and that Qwest had identified several differences between Qwest and SBC’s architecture that made the request, as written, difficult to implement. After discussion of these differences, Covad had revised their description of change. White-Qwest asked Cook-Qwest to describe the network architecture differences. Cook-Qwest explained the differences between the Qwest network architecture and the SBC architecture. He stated that in order to grant the Covad request as it was currently written Qwest would have to rewire much of its existing network in order to allow CLECs using Common Area Splitter Collocation the ability to use its DSL terminations from the DSLAMs for either xDSL Unbundled Loops or Line Sharing-type services. He stated that he had some questions about Covad’s request as it pertained to their intentions to use it to provision xDSL Unbundled Loops through the data only 410 termination block. Neesen-Covad stated that her understanding was that this request now asks that Covad will be able to look up all future and presently unused facilities on the same functionality. Cook-Qwest stated that this was his impression. Neesen-Covad asked if this only applied to collocated splitters or for both collocated and common area splitters. Cook-Qwest stated that it only applied to only collocated splitters. Neesen-Covad stated that Covad has set a soft due date of April 1, 2003. She explained that Covad is doing an internal OSS change and may end up changing the date. White-Qwest stated that Qwest’s analysis had revealed that in order to fully meet Covad’s request there were IMA changes that needed to be made. He explined that this required the CR to be crossed over into the systems side of CMP. Berard-Covad asked for an explanation of the IMA implications. Cook-Qwest stated that Qwest was looking at doing a dual look into both inventories and implementing an up-front ability to look into both systems on a pre-order basis. Neesen-Covad stated that Covad’s original objective was to minimize collocation costs, use existing inventory on command and reduce wiring errors. Berard-Covad asked how this would work to convert existing blocks? Jeff-Qwest stated that there had been no discussion of blocks would be converted. He explained that if a block used a common area splitter, it would not be converted. White-Qwest asked if there were any other questions. There were none. White-Qwest thanked the participants and adjourned the meeting. ======================================================================= Additional Clarification Meeting 2:00 PM (Mountain Time) / Thursday, January 2, 2003 Attendees Matt White – CRPM Jeff Cook – Qwest Scott Sharket – Qwest Mike Zulevic – Covad Becky Neesen – Covad Introduction of Attendees Cook-Qwest welcomed all attendees and reviewed the request and his reason for calling the meeting. He explained the differences between the Qwest network architecture and the SBC architecture. He stated that in order to grant the Covad request as it was currently written Qwest would have to rewire much of its existing network in order to allow CLECs using Common Area Splitter Collocation the ability to use its DSL terminations from the DSLAMs for either xDSL Unbundled Loops or Line Sharing-type services. He stated that he had some questions about Covad’s request as it pertained to their intentions to use it to provision xDSL Unbundled Loops through the data only 410 termination block. Zulevic-Covad stated that Covad was trying to establish a situation where Covad could convert existing DSO’s to line sharing without extensive delays. Neesen-Covad stated that Qwest currently enforces a 90 day interval and completed work often includes errors. Cook, Zulevic and Neesen discussed several potential ways to overcome the gap between the request and what was physically possible on the Qwest network. The three agreed that this request would be better implemented of the description was rewritten to be more forward looking. Sharkey-Qwest asked if Covad was interested in this functionality for pre-order as well as ordering. Neesen-Covad stated that they were. White-Qwest stated that he and Cook would revise the Description of Change and forward it to Zulevic and Neesen for review. ================================================================== 12/18/02 - CMP Monthly Product/Process Meeting Cook-Qwest described the CR and presented the Qwest response. Zulevic-Covad stated that if Qwest had any questions when it was deciding options to pursue it should contact Covad for an ad hoc meeting. Van Meter-AT&T asked that she also be included in the ad hoc meeting. She also asked how Qwest would determine the best solution. Cook-Qwest stated that Qwest would decide based on the most efficient option that fully satisfied the CLEC request. Balvin-WorldCom stated that Qwest should document all the options it is considering and why it chooses to pursue, or not pursue, each. Zulevic-Covad stated that he would like to see this option because Covad may opt to use the SCRP to fund a systems change that Qwest feels is too expensive. White-Qwest stated that he would work with Cook-Qwest and Zulevic-Covad to set up an ad hoc meeting. The CR was moved into Evaluation status. =================================================================== 11/20/02 - CMP Monthly Product/Process Meeting Zulevic-Covad presented the CR. He stated that SBC had already allowed its wholesale customers to do a one-time conversion of DSO tie cables to both databases for no charge. Cook-Qwest stated that he had no questions. The CR status was updated to Presented. =================================================================== CLEC Change Request – PC102102-1 Clarification Meeting 2:00 PM (Mountain Time) / Wednesday, November 6, 2002 1-877-550-8686 2213337# Attendees Matt White – CRPM Jeff Cook – Qwest Brett Fesler – Qwest Mike Zulevic – Covad Becky Neesen – Covad Introduction of Attendees White-Qwest welcomed all attendees and reviewed the request. Review Requested (Description of) Change Zulevic-Covad reviewed the CR. He stated that there is a delay if Covad uses the existing inventory for tie pairs with line sharing because the pairs need to be reclassified from UNE to line sharing. He stated that this was because Qwest maintains two different databases for the two inventories. He continued that there was a similar problem at SBC until SBC solved by adopting a dual inventory system where the same pairs were inventoried in TIRKS and SWITCH/FOMS. He summarized that Covad wanted some way to utilize tie cables from either service without additional cost of delay to transfer. Zulevic-Covad stated that he had recently come from a meeting with Steve Nelson. He stated Nelson was aware of this CR and would probably send someone to work on it. Fesler-Qwest stated that he worked with Nelson’s group and was the product SME for this CR. Confirm Areas and Products Impacted White-Qwest confirmed that the attendees were comfortable that the request appropriately identified all areas and products impacted. Confirm Right Personnel Involved White-Qwest confirmed with the attendees that the appropriate Qwest personnel were involved. Identify/Confirm CLEC’s Expectation White-Qwest reviewed the request to confirm Covad’s expectation. Identify and Dependant Systems Change Requests White-Qwest asked the attendees if they knew of any related change requests. Establish Action Plan White-Qwest asked attendees if there were any further questions. There were none. White-Qwest stated that the next step was for Covad to present the CR at the November Monthly Product/Process Meeting and thanked all attendees for attending the meeting.
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CenturyLink Response |
REVISED RESPONSE February 19, 2003 RE: SCR102102-1X Dual Inventory of DSL tie cables in TIRKS and SWITCH/FOMS Qwest has reviewed the information submitted as part of Change Request (SCR102102-1X). Based upon the scope of this CR as agreed to in the Clarification Meeting, Qwest is able to provide an estimated Level of Effort (LOE) of 3275 and 5450 and(SATE) 375 and 500 hours for this IMA Change Request. At the next Monthly Systems CMP Meeting, CMP participants will be given the opportunity to comment on this Change Request and provide additional clarifications. Any clarifications and/or modifications identified at that time will be incorporated into Qwest's further evaluation of this Change Request. This Change Request is an eligible candidate for the IMA 14.0 Release. Sincerely, Qwest January 6, 2003 REVISED RESPONSE For Review by CLEC Community and Discussion at the January 15, 2002, CMP Product/Process Meeting Mike Zulevic Director - GEA Covad Communications SUBJECT: Qwest’s Change Request Revised Response - CR #PC102102-1 Qwest conducted a meeting on January 6th to discuss with the CLECs Covad’s request for dual inventory of tie cables. From this meeting, it was determined that one solution to Covad’s request is to have the IMA systems automatically check SWITCH and TIRKS to ensure that the requested pair is not in use in either system. This verification will be required on all Line Sharing, Line Splitting, Loop Splitting (excluding orders requesting the use of Common Area Splitters), and xDSL capable loops. Qwest recommends that this CR crossover to become a Systems CR. It should be understood that Qwest cannot agree to implement this solution until Qwest determines its operational functionality and/or the cost associated with it. Sincerely, Jeff Cook Staff Advocate – Policy & Law =============================================================== December 6, 2002 DRAFT RESPONSE For Review by CLEC Community and Discussion at the December 18, 2002, CMP Product/Process Meeting Mike Zulevic Director - GEA Covad Communications SUBJECT: Qwest’s Change Request Response - CR #PC102102-1 Currently, Qwest does not have an automated process in place to inventory the DS0 terminations in both the TIRKS and SWITCH systems. Duplicating DS0 terminations in both systems requires there be a mechanism to synchronize assignments for DS0 terminations between the systems. As a result, manual processes would be necessary to ensure the DS0 inventories in TIRKS match those in SWITCH. To better understand this issue and to gain clarity around how SBC has successfully employed this capability, Qwest pursued a very high-level explanation from SBC of the SWITCH/TIRKS enhancements implemented by SBC. While on the surface it appears that SBC does maintain a dual inventory of DS0 terminations, Qwest has not yet been able to determine how SBC maintains the data in both systems to ensure inventory consistency and accuracy. Qwest would like to move this Change Request into the Evaluation Status in order to explore the potential options available to address this request. Qwest will provide a readout of where we are at the December CMP meeting and will outline the next steps to be accomplished at the January CMP meeting. Sincerely, Jeff Cook Staff Advocate – Policy & Law Qwest
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