Wholesale: Products & Services

Archived System CR SCR092503-03 Detail

 
Title: Request to Change CCNA (RSID) in SATE Test Environment
CR Number Current Status
Date
Level of
Effort
Interface/
Release No.
Area
Impacted
Products
Impacted

SCR092503-03 Denied
10/7/2003
-   20/ All
Originator: Osborne-Miller, Donna
Originator Company Name: AT&T
Owner: Winston, Connie
Director:
CR PM: Esquibel-Reed, Peggy
Description Of Change
SATE is coded with predefined SATE specific RSIDS. With this limitation AT&T is forced to use what has been designed in logic. This restriction forces us to do code changes while testing. AT&T would like to use its RSID in production, in the SATE test environment.

Expected Deliverable:

For AT&T to be able to use it’s RSID in SATE testing.

Status History

Date Action Description
9/18/2003 Discussed at Monthly CMP Meeting Discussed at the September Systems CMP Monthly Meeting; please see September Systems CMP Distribution Package, Attachment A 
9/25/2003 CR Submitted  
9/29/2003 CR Acknowledged  
9/29/2003 Info Requested from CLEC Emailed AT&T asking for Clarification Meeting Availability. 
10/1/2003 Clarification Meeting Scheduled  
10/3/2003 Clarification Meeting Held  
10/3/2003 Status Changed Status changed to clarification 
10/7/2003 Qwest Response Issued  
10/16/2003 Discussed at Monthly CMP Meeting Discussed at the October Systems CMP Monthly Meeting; please see October Systems CMP Distribution Package, Attachments B & G 

Project Meetings

October 16, 2003 Systems CMP Meeting Discussion: Connie Winston/Qwest stated that the Clarification Meeting was held and noted that Qwest has explained the options. Connie stated that this request was denied due to SATEs structure of controlling CCNA, so can execute repeatable test cases. Alan Flanigan/Time Warner asked why they need to use different CCNAs for different products such as FBDL, and asked why the CCNA is not related to the national CCNA. Alan noted that it is unique to Qwest. Woldey Assefa/Qwest stated that FBDL uses the ACNA. Alan Flanigan/Time Warner stated that he uses the national code for FBDL and that for other products, he uses the Qwest made-up ones. Sue Stott/Qwest stated are the Reseller ID. Connie Winston/Qwest stated that she is not familiar with the history and stated that she would take an action item to check into the issue. Liz Balvin/MCI stated that AT&Ts CR is saying that production and SATE are different and Alan (Flanigan) is saying that is made-up by Qwest. Sue Stott/Qwest stated that when SATE was architected, not knowing who was going to use it, it was built with generic accounts so could guarantee results. Donna Osborne-Miller/AT&T stated that she appreciated that Qwest entertained their other idea.

-- October 7, 2003 Email Sent to AT&T: Donna, In the SATE enviroment, there is no other field but the CCNA field that uniquely identifies one customer from another. Let me know if you have additional questions. Thanks, Peggy Esquibel-Reed Qwest CMP CRPM -- Systems

-- October 7, 2003 Email to AT&T: Donna, I will forward your question to John and Woldey. Thanks, Peggy

October 7, 2003 Email Received from AT&T: Hi Peggy, Is it too late for Qwest to consider this: is there another field that IT could look at in the SATE environment that uniquely identifies the CCNA? We were hoping that is a key field in which logic could be built to support this suggestion? Can you please take back to John and Woldey? Thank you, Donna

- October 7, 2003 Email Sent to AT&T: Hello Donna, Attached is a current revised report of your submitted CMP CR, SCR092503-03 Request to Change CCNA (RSID) in SATE Test Environment. The revision contains the Qwest Response to your request. Due to the denial response, there will not be a vote at the October CMP Meeting for this CR to be considered as a Late Adder into the most recent SATE Prioritization. I'm sorry this could not be better news. Peggy Esquibel-Reed Qwest CMP CRPM -- Systems

- 10/30/03 Clarification Call

ATTENDEES Donna Osborne-Miller - AT&T, Regina Mosley - AT&T, Phyllis Burt - AT&T, Woldey Assefa - Qwest, Shonna Pasionek - Qwest, John Gallegos - Qwest, Lynn Stecklein - Qwest

REVIEW DESCRIPTION OF CHANGE Lynn Stecklein - Qwest reviewed the description of the CR. AT&T is requesting Qwest to Change CCNA (RSID) in SATE Test Environment. SATE is coded with predefined SATE specific RSIDS. With this limitation AT&T is forced to use what has been designed in logic. This restriction forces AT&T to do code changes while testing. AT&T would like to use its RSID in production, in the SATE test environment.

CONFIRM AREAS & PRODUCTS IMPACTED The interface impacted is SATE for all products.

IDENTIFY/CONFIRM CLEC'S EXPECTATION Expected Deliverable: For AT&T to be able to use it’s RSID in SATE testing.

DISCUSSION Woldey Assefa - Qwest asked AT&T to describe the problem they were having with the RSID for SATE. Regina Mosely - AT&T stated that the problem is that when they begin testing they are using the production RSID, then they have to change to R03, and finally have to change back to T02. Woldley asked if the field was a drop down and AT&T said no, it is coded. Woldley said that the environment is very data driven and used the example of AT&T with the RSID of T02 and Woldey with the RSID of W02. The 'CC' field on the account is tracked by the last two digits of the RSID. In this example, the system only tracks the '02' portion of the RSID and that is where the problem is. Phyllis Burt/AT&T asked if CLEC has its own RSID and Woldley said yes. Phyllis Burt - AT&T asked why SATE could not recognize the three character RSID. Woldley stated that to have SATE recognize the three character RSID would require a full re-architecture of SATE. Donna Osborne-Miller - AT&T asked Woldley to explain why recognizing the three characters would require a full re-architecture. Woldley explained that all the logic is driven by that code. John Gallegos - Qwest stated that this effort would be extremely large and that we are trying to look at other alternatives. Donna Osborne-Miller asked if Phyllis or Regina had any ideas of an alternative. They could not think of any at this time. Donna said that if they thought of an alternative, they would contact Qwest. Bonnie Johnson/Eschelon said that Eschelon is in full support of this CR.

ESTABLISH ACTION PLAN AT&T will present this CR at the October CMP meeting as a 'late adder'

September 29, 2003 Email Received from AT&T: Hello Peggy, AT&T would like to submit SCR092503-03 as a late adder to SATE prioritization pertaining to IMA 15.0 Thank you, Donna Osborne-Miller

- September 29, 2003 Email to Donna Osborne-Miller/AT&T: Donna, Would you please provide me with your availability for the Clarification Meeting for your CMP CR of SCR092503-03. Please provides me with several options through October 6th. Thanks much. Peggy Esquibel-Reed Qwest CMP CRPM -- Systems 303.896.6332

-- September 18, 2003 Systems CMP Meeting Discussion: Donna Osborne-Miller/AT&T stated that her business partner has a business need for SATE and asked if she should wait until 15.0 SATE Prioritization has completed. Donna stated that the RSID of R03, in SATE, needs to be the same as production. Kit Thomte/Qwest stated that would be the right approach. Jim Maher/Qwest stated that it would need to be requested as a Late Adder since prioritization process starts today. Liz Balvin/MCI stated that if SATE does not mirror production, that aspect should be researched. Woldey Assefa/Qwest stated that is the nature of how SATE works, that it has a different RSID. Liz Balvin/MCI stated okay. Donna Osborne-Miller/AT&T stated that she would submit a CR.

CenturyLink Response

October 3, 2003

Donna Osborne-Miller, AT&T

CC: Lynn Notarianni Connie Winston Sue Stott Beth Foster Christy Turton Kit Thomte

This letter is in response to CLEC Change Request number SCR092503-03 dated 09/25/03, titled: Request to Change CCNA (RSID) in SATE Test Environment.

CLEC CR Description as written by AT&T: "SATE is coded with predefined SATE specific RSIDs. With this limitation AT&T is forced to use what has been designed in logic. This restriction forces us to do code changes while testing. AT&T would like to use its RSID in production, in the SATE test environment Expected Deliverable: For AT&T to be able to use it’s RSID in SATE testing."

Qwest Response: Qwest has completed an analysis for CR SCR092503-03. The EDI SATE environment has been specifically architected and designed around the CCNA’s of R01 thru R99 in order to control environmental and data variables such as number of users, system performance, data integrity rules, simplicity of customer use, security of test transactions, parity between CLECs, proper documentation, thorough system testing, and achievement of expected results to the Customer. The implementation of production CCNA’s into the SATE environment equates to a significant increase in the scope of the current SATE environment, including potential test clients, transaction support, system testing, documentation, infrastructure, and maintenance. The proposed change would have significant impacts requiring the re-architecture of the SATE system, and a significant system scope increase requiring the purchase of additional hardware and software. The initial cost of implementing the SATE system rework, the required redesign of the multiple systems feeding into SATE, and on-going maintenance costs, makes this request economically not feasible.

Qwest is denying your request for CR SCR092503-03, Request to Change CCNA (RSID) in SATE Test Environment based on the economically infeasibility of implementing the request.

Sincerely, Qwest

Information Current as of 1/11/2021