Archived System CR SCR011904-01 Detail |
Title: Port Service (PS) Form Used for UNE P Requests in Place of Resale Form (RS) | |||||
CR Number |
Current Status Date |
Level of Effort |
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Area Impacted |
Products Impacted |
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SCR011904-01 |
Completed 5/18/2005 |
3000 - 3400 | 3/17 | Ordering | All UNE-P |
Originator: Johnson, Bonnie |
Originator Company Name: Eschelon |
Owner: Winston, Connie |
Director: |
CR PM: Esquibel-Reed, Peggy |
Description Of Change |
Qwest to follow OBF guidelines and use the PS form for UNE-P orders. Qwest currently requires CLECs to use RS form for submitting UNE-P orders. Because Qwest is the only LEC that requires CLECs to use the RS form, CLECs code differently for the UNE-P product when doing business with Qwest than they when they code for other LECs. To efficiently manage EDI coding, CLECs require consistency across regions. OBF recommends guideline to allow CLECs to achieve this consistency. When Qwest does not follow the recommend guidelines it creates additional work for the CLEC.
Expected Deliverable: Qwest will implement the use of the PS form for UNE-P.
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Status History |
Date | Action | Description |
1/19/2004 | CR Submitted | |
1/20/2004 | CR Acknowledged | |
1/20/2004 | Clarification Meeting Scheduled | Clarification Meeting Scheduled for January 29, 2004. |
1/29/2004 | Clarification Meeting Held | See Project Meetings Section for Clarification Meeting Minutes. |
2/19/2004 | Status Changed | Status changed to presented |
2/19/2004 | Discussed at Monthly CMP Meeting | Discussed at the February Systems CMP Monthly Meeting; please see the February Systems CMP Distribution Package, Attachments B, H, J |
3/18/2004 | Discussed at Monthly CMP Meeting | Discussed at the March Systems CMP Monthly Meeting; please see March Systems CMP Distribution Package, Attachment I |
7/22/2004 | Discussed at Monthly CMP Meeting | Discussed at the July Systems CMP Monthly Meeting; please see July Systems CMP Distribution Package, Attachment N |
8/3/2004 | Release Ranking | 17.0 Prioritization- Ranked #4 out of 41 |
8/18/2004 | Discussed at Monthly CMP Meeting | Discussed at the August Systems CMP Monthly Meeting; please see August Systems CMP Distribution Package, Attachment J |
11/17/2004 | Discussed at Monthly CMP Meeting | Discussed at the November Systems CMP Monthly Meeting; please see the November Systems CMP Distribution Package, Attachment M |
3/16/2005 | Discussed at Monthly CMP Meeting | Discussed at the March Systems CMP Monthly Meeting; please see March Systems CMP Distribution Package, Attachment K |
4/11/2005 | Status Changed | Status Changed to CLEC Test due to Deployment of the IMA 17.0 Release. |
4/20/2005 | Discussed at Monthly CMP Meeting | Discussed at the April Systems CMP Monthly Meeting; please see April Systems CMP Distribution Package, Attachment G |
5/18/2005 | Discussed at Monthly CMP Meeting | Discussed at the May Systems CMP Monthly Meeting; please see the May Systems CMP Distribution Package, Attachment G |
Project Meetings |
May 18, 2005 Systems CMP Meeting Discussion: Stephanie Prull-Eschelon stated that the only issue was with documentation and that they were already addressed. Stephanie stated that there are no issues with the form and stated that the CR could be closed. Liz Balvin-Covad asked if the PS Form would now be used for QPP. Jill Martain-Qwest said yes. This CR is in Completed status.
- April 20, 2005 Systems CMP Meeting Discussion: Jill Martain-Qwest stated that 17.0 was deployed on 4/11/05 and that this CR will remain in CLEC Test.
-- March 16, 2005 Systems CMP Meeting Discussion: Jill Martain-Qwest stated that this CR is scheduled to be implemented on April 11, 2005, with the IMA 17.0 Release.
-- November 17, 2004 Systems CMP Meeting Discussion: Jill Martain/Qwest stated that the IMA 17.0 Packaging Status is located in Attachment M. Jill also said that the Release date for 17.0 was changed from April 25, 2005 to April 11, 2005. Liz Balvin/Covad stated that the LOE was reduced for this release and asked if Qwest would provide capacity in December of 2004. Jill Martain/Qwest stated that Qwest would provide the capacity for 2005 in December of 2004. Liz Balvin/Covad asked if the 1400 to 1600 hours for SCR121003-01EX Mechanization for SUPP Type 3 Activity scheduled in December were available. Liz said the hours should be available for 17.0 Susie Bliss/Qwest stated that we were utilizing those hours this year. Bonnie Johnson/Eschelon said that here understanding was that the hours were available for 17.0. Susie Bliss/Qwest said that we don’t know what the hours are for 2005 yet. Bonnie Johnson/Eschelon asked if the available resources stayed at 20,000 hours for the year. Susie Bliss/Qwest stated that the 20,000 hours is an estimate for 17.0. Bonnie Johnson/Eschelon said that Qwest used to package to mid-range and that for 17.0 Qwest packaged at the high range. Susie Bliss/Qwest said that this is due to the uncertainty. Comment received from Eschelon 11/29/04 – and Qwest does not know the hours for 2005 right now. Liz Balvin/Covad asked why the IMA 17.0 production date was moved. John Gallegos/Qwest said that Qwest needed to sync up with other systems and for other technical reasons. John Berard/Covad asked if the date was moved because of the hours. John Gallegos/Qwest said no, it was not because of the hours.
-- August 18, 2004 Systems CMP Meeting Discussion: Stephanie Prull/Eschelon asked if the edits done for an MCI request would carry over to the PS Form. Connie Winston/Qwest stated that she would share that with the definition team. Bonnie Johnson/Eschelon stated that they would like it mirrored.
July 22, 2004 Systems CMP Meeting Discussion: Jill Martain/Qwest stated that Qwest would distribute the ballot on July 27th, it is due back to Qwest on July 30th, and Qwest would email the initial prioritization list to the CLECs on August 3rd. There were no questions. Stephanie Prull/Eschelon stated that this was very high for Eschelon; it is Eschelon’s #1. Jennifer Arnold/ TDS Metrocom/USLink stated that this is high for them as well. Liz Balvin/MCI stated that this was also high for MCI.
-- March 18, 2004 Systems CMP Meeting Discussion: Connie Winston/Qwest stated that the LOE for this candidate is 3000 to 3400 IMA hours and 125 to 150 hours. Connie noted that this CR is eligible for the next vote. There were no comments or questions. The Action Item is Closed.
February 19, 2004 Systems CMP Meeting Discussion: Stephanie Prull/Eschelon presented the CR. (3/2/04 Revision from Eschelon - Stephanie explained that other ILECs use the PS form for UNE-P. As a result our vendor does not code to the RS form for UNE-P. Eschelon needs this to use EDI for UNE-P). There were no questions or comments. Kit Thomte/Qwest stated that the CR status would be changed to Presented. Judy Schultz/Qwest stated that she wanted to provide an update to the funding approval process that was discussed in the January CMP Systems Meeting. Judy referred everyone to Attachment J in the Distribution Package. She stated that all CRs are being re-evaluated and must be approved. Judy said that CRs could not be scheduled without approval. Judy stated that the CRs with an impact to the IMA interface would follow the existing prioritization process. Judy noted that the funding for IMA 15.0 and IMA 16.0 has been approved, as well as funding to begin work on IMA 17.0.
- Systems Clarification Meeting - Eschelon Change Request Date: January 29, 2004 CR No & Title: SCR011904-01 Port Service (PS) Form Used for UNE-P Requests in Place of Resale Form (RS) Introduction of Attendees: Kim Isaacs-Eschelon, Stephanie Prull-Eschelon, Donna Osborne Miller-AT&T, Liz Balvin-MCI, Peggy Esquibel Reed-Qwest, John Gallegos-Qwest, Hank Martinez-Qwest, Mark Gonzales-Qwest, Jim Recker-Qwest, Terri Kilker-Qwest, Ellen McArthur-Qwest Review Requested (Description of) Change: Peggy Esquibel Reed/Qwest reviewed the CR Description and Expected Deliverable: Qwest to follow OBF guidelines and use the PS form for UNE-P orders. Qwest currently requires CLECs to use RS form for submitting UNE-P orders. Because Qwest is the only LEC that requires CLECs to use the RS form, CLECs code differently for the UNE-P product when doing business with Qwest than they when they code for other LECs. To efficiently manage EDI coding, CLECs require consistency across regions. OBF recommends guideline to allow CLECs to achieve this consistency. When Qwest does not follow the recommended guidelines it creates additional work for the CLEC. The Expected Deliverable is for Qwest to implement the use of the PS form for UNE-P. Additional Meeting Discussion: Peggy Esquibel Reed-Qwest asked Eschelon if they had additional information regarding their request. Stephanie Prull-Eschelon stated that when a CLEC has a home grown system, it requires different coding. Stephanie stated that there are companies like Eschelon, who use a 3rd party vendor. Stephanie stated that the 3rd party vendor codes to Industry Guidelines and this makes it difficult for those companies the 3rd party vendors to order UNE-P because it is not Industry Standard. Stephanie noted that Eschelon does support the RS Form. Hank Martinez-Qwest asked if this request is for all Resale Form products. Stephanie Prull-Eschelon stated that this CR is for UNE-P. Hank Martinez-Qwest asked to confirm, at a hi-level, the fields of: PTLI which is used by UNE-P PBX Designed Trunks only. PTKCON which is used by UNE-P PBX Designed Trunks, UNE-P ISDN BRI, UNE-P PRI ISDN Trunk, UNE-P DSS Trunk. MEGACENTNM which is used by UNE-P POTS (P or STAR) and UNE-P PBX Designed Trunks NIDR which is used for all UNE Products IWJK which is used by UNE-P PBX Designed Trunks IWJQ which is used by UNE-P PBX Designed Trunks Stephanie Prull-Eschelon stated that the majority is PBX and Designed Trunks. Donna Osborne-Miller-AT&T asked if the CR was for any other products besides UNE-P POTS. Stephanie Prull-Eschelon stated that Eschelon’s preference is UNE-P POTS but that the CR is All UNE-P. Stephanie noted that she is agreeable to All UNE-P. Hank Martinez-Qwest stated that it would mean moving over a MEGACENTNM. Stephanie Prull-Eschelon responded that was correct. Liz Balvin-MCI stated that all other LECs support and MCI only does UNE-P POTS. Terri Kilker-Qwest asked Hank (Martinez) if the impact is to the Loop Form in addition to the Port Form and asked if the PS Form has everything or would a PS and Loop Form combination be needed. Hank Martinez-Qwest stated that he would need to look into that question and stated that only one may be needed due to the MEGACENTNM. Terri Kilker-Qwest asked if the product was limited to UNE-P POTS only, only the PS Form would be involved. Hank Martinez-Qwest responded yes. Hank Martinez-Qwest stated that the sequencing of the elements would also change. Stephanie Prull-Eschelon asked that as Qwest evaluates this request, to look if all would be required to be moved or would it be an option to move to the PS Form or stay with the RS Form. Hank Martinez-Qwest stated that the data elements, for UNE-P, would not change with the move. Liz Balvin-MCI asked Eschelon if they were going to request that this be a Late Adder into the 16.0 Release. Stephanie Prull-Eschelon stated that she would not make that request due to the anticipation of a high Level of Effort. Liz Balvin-MCI asked if it makes more sense to accommodate this request when the LSOG version changes. Liz stated that MCI’s IT people tell her that this is going to be a lot of work. Stephanie Prull- Eschelon agreed with Liz. Donna Osborne-Miller-AT&T also agreed with Liz. Terri Kilker-Qwest asked if they currently use the PS Form for UNE-P. Stephanie Prull-Eschelon stated that they only use the PS Form in Qwest territory. Stephanie stated that their vendor is nationwide and they support all RBOCs. Stephanie noted that the decision of the vendor was to code to Industry Standards, to use the PS Form and not the RS Form. There were no addition comments or questions. Confirmed Impacted Area(s): Peggy Esquibel Reed-Qwest confirmed that the impacted area is Ordering. Confirmed Impacted Interfaces: Peggy Esquibel Reed-Qwest confirmed that the impact is to IMA Common. Confirmed Impacted Products: Peggy Esquibel Reed-Qwest confirmed that this CR is for All UNE-P Products. Obtain the Business Need from the CR Originator/What is the problem that needs to be solved: For CLECs using a 3rd Party Vendor. The 3rd party vendor codes to Industry Standards, which is the PS Form. This makes it difficult for companies using 3rd party vandors to order UNE-P because it is not Industry Standard. Establish Action Plan & Resolution Time Frame: CR due for presentation at the February 19, 2004 Systems CMP Meeting. Qwest will provide the response to the CR in March 2004.
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CenturyLink Response |
REVISED Draft Response March 12, 2004 RE: SCR011904-01 Port Service (PS) Form Used for UNE-P Requests in Place of Resale Form (RS) Qwest has reviewed the information submitted as part of Change Request SCR011904-01. Based upon the scope of this CR as agreed to in the Clarification Meeting (held January 29, 2004) Qwest is able to provide an estimated Level of Effort (LOE) of 3000 to 3400 hours for this IMA Change Request and 125 to 150 hours for SATE. This Change Request is an eligible candidate for the IMA 17.0 prioritization vote. Sincerely, Qwest
DRAFT RESPONSE March 10, 2004 RE: SCR011904-01 Port Service (PS) Form Used for UNE-P Requests in Place of Resale Form (RS) Qwest has reviewed the information submitted as part of Change Request SCR0011904-01. Based upon research that has been conducted following the Clarification Meeting Qwest is still examining the issue. Qwest will continue to research the problem and provide an updated response at the March Systems CMP Meeting. At the March Monthly Systems CMP Meeting, CMP participants will be given the opportunity to comment on this Change Request and provide additional clarifications. Qwest is interested in the experiences of the CMP community as relates to this issue. Qwest will incorporate any feedback received at the next Monthly Systems CMP Meeting into further evaluation of this Change Request. Sincerely, Qwest
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