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Open Product/Process CR PC090208-1CM Detail

Description Of Change

Qwest is proposing that a change be made to how we support the previous Major Release of the Interconnect Mediated Access (IMA) Application-to-Application interface. Rather than supporting a previous release for 180 days, Qwest is proposing that the previous release be supported for a 60 (sixty) calendar day period after the subsequent Major Release of IMA has been implemented. As part of this change, Qwest is proposing a change to how long a release can be extended and a clarification of the process when a CLEC fails to successfully migrate to the next release in the required timeframe.

Qwest is also proposing that the language associated with the number of IMA releases which will be supported be modified to reflect what has been the Qwest standard operating practice since IMA 16 in 2004. The practice has been to implement two Major Releases and two Point Releases, if necessary, (for IMA only) within a calendar year.

Qwest is proposing updating the CMP Document to support this operating standard.

Expected Deliverables/Proposed Implementation Date (if applicable):

Proposed implementation of April 2009 with IMA 25.0; IMA 24.0 would be retired 60 days after IMA 25.0, i.e., June 2009

Project Meetings

11/14/12 Product/Process CMP Meeting Mark Coyne - CenturyLink said this CR was on the Deferred list and that CenturyLink has moved it back to a Deferred status at this time. Mark said CenturyLink will continue to evaluate the timeframes.

10/17/12 Product/Process CMP Meeting Mark Coyne - CenturyLink said this was also on the Deferred list and that we are still evaluating this CR and will either move it to Pending Withdrawal for November or share some status.

08/15/12 Product/Process CMP Meeting Mark Coyne – CenturyLink relayed that in the July meeting, CenturyLink had asked the owner of each Deferred CR to determine if it should remain in Deferred status, is it should be Withdrawn, or whether it should be re- evaluated. Mark then reviewed the status of each CR as listed on the Attachment:

PC090208-1CM - IMA Application to Application Support Change Change to CMP Doc – Still under investigation.

1/21/09 Prod/Proc CMP Meeting

Lynn Stecklein-Qwest stated that this CR is proposing updates that a change be made to how we support the previous Major Release of the IMA Application-to-Application Interface. She said the redline is located in Attachment E of the distribution package that provides the detail on the changes that have been discussed in adhoc and CMP monthly meetings. Bonnie Johnson-Integra said that during the last adhoc meeting, Integra said they would not agree to the change where Qwest is proposing to change from 3 major releases to 2 because there may be a potential regulatory change Qwest needs to meet outside of the scheduled releases. (1/30/09 Comments to Minutes received from Integra) Bonnie said Integra may agree to something like the CLECs that migrated the last 30 days. Integra believed Qwest was going to change this language. She said that Integra also did not agree to the change where Qwest will confirm with the last CLEC migration off the previous release. Bonnie said that because of these proposed changes as still in the document, Integra will be voting no. Lynn Stecklein-Qwest said Quorum for this vote is 8 and has been achieved. She said that Section 2.1 of the CMP document states that incorporating a change into the Change Management Process requires unanimous agreement. Lynn said that a vote of ‘Yes’ will indicate a preference that updates be made to the CMP Document as identified in the attached document. A vote of ‘No’ will indicate a preference that updates should not be made to the CMP Document as identified in the attached document. Qwest has received 2 e-mail votes, one from Sprint who voted yes and 1 from Velocity who abstained. AT&T - Yes Covad - Abstain Comcast - No Integra - No McLeod/Paetec - No Sprint – Yes Qwest – Yes Time Warner - Yes Velocity – Abstain Verizon Business – No

In this vote, conducted in accordance with Section 16.4 and 17.0 of the CMP Document, the participants voted not to grant the requested change that a change be made to how we support the previous Major Release of the IMA Application-to-Application Interface.

1/12/09 Clarification Meeting

Doug Allen-AT&T, Gloria Velez-AT&T, Dawn Beck-Qwest, Susan Lorence-Qwest, Lynn Stecklein-Qwest

Doug Allen-AT&T asked if the 12/1/08 update was for IMA only.

Dawn Beck-Qwest said that we were referring to the XML interface.

Susan Lorence-Qwest said that we are trying to relay that all other app to app interfaces will continue to have a 73 day notification timeline but in the case of IMA we will use a 90 day timeline.

Doug Allen-AT&T asked if the 90 day days won’t change.

Susan Lorence-Qwest said that we will send the draft tech specs at 90 days but we will allow the rest of that section to remain with the timelines that are there. She said that we are going to send the draft specs 90 days prior to the implementation and the walk though will be within the 58 to 68 day timeframe. She said that we weren’t going to change that and it gives them a much longer time and a longer comment cycle.

Gloria Velez-AT&t said that Qwest is changing the 73 day timeframe to 90 days as it relates to the draft. She said that is the difference between 73 and 90 calendar days or 17 days.

Susan Lorence-Qwest said that we are sending them earlier but the important thing to remember is that we are just lengthening your comment cycle. The final goes out in the 45 day timeframe.

Gloria Velez-AT&T said that having a longer comment cycle might be good for some. She said that they are trying to start working on their internal requirements sooner.

Dawn Beck-Qwest said that Qwest was asked to provide the draft earlier.

Gloria Velez-AT&T said that she was not sure that there was an agreement to 90 days there but that it was only discussion.

Doug Allen-AT&T said that there was discussion but no final agreement.

Susan Lorence-Qwest said that there was an agreement of what our proposal was.

Dawn Beck-Qwest said that that the 73 days was always was in our original draft and now we are trying to provide 90 days.

Gloria Velez-AT&T said that since the final is not changing there is a longer period from draft to final.

Dawn Beck-Qwest said that you are going to get notified when changes occur between draft and final. She said that if there are changes to developer worksheets we keep a running log and make changes to the final.

Gloria Velez-AT&T asked if when you do find changes to the worksheets is Qwest sending another versions of the developer worksheets.

Dawn Beck-Qwest said that we show what is changing from and to and the changes are very clear.

Gloria Velez-AT&T asked if the information is in the actual e-mail body or in the links.

Dawn Beck-Qwest said that it is in the document sent.

Susan Lorence-Qwest asked how we know who to send it to.

Dawn Beck-Qwest said via the subscription process.

Gloria Velez-AT&T said that they have difficulty on the changes being made and asked if the changes would be in the e-mail and is the word document attached.

Dawn Beck-Qwest said yes the documents will be attached.

Gloria Velez-AT&T asked for clarification on the exception process.

Dawn Beck-Qwest said that occasionally a late adder is requested in a release and goes through the formal CMP review.

Doug Allen-AT&T asked if everyone has to vote.

Dawn Beck-Qwest said yes and the vote has to be unanimous.

Susan Lorence-Qwest said that the voting process is in Section 16.4 of the CMP document and if it has anything to do with a systems request or changes any part of the CMP Document a unanimous vote is required.

Dawn Beck-Qwest said that an example of this was the LNP FCC order that order that came out very late and were not able to meet a 73 day timeline. She said that we had an exception for a point release and that we took a vote to meet the mandated date.

Dawn Beck-Qwest said that is the only time that she could remember where we have used the process.

Gloria Velez-AT&T said that in the past other people have asked that Qwest provide the draft prior to the 73 day timeline and it was not well received. She said now Qwest is interested in changing the timeline and asked why. She said her fear with this language unless an exception is granted is that they could see an issue with the timeline.

Dawn Beck-Qwest said that may have been true in the past because of the complexity of EDI and that we could not turnaround as quickly as we can now with XML. She said that is why Qwest submitted this CR and also because the releases are now half of what they used to be.

Gloria Velez-AT&T said that based on her knowledge what would be the future likelihood of going through the exception process.

Dawn Beck-Qwest said that it would be highly unlikely. Gloria Velez-AT&T asked if it would only be CLEC initiated not associated with internal Qwe work, i.e. trouble tickets that would impact CLEC work.

Dawn Beck- Qwest said that if there was a problem with trouble tickets that would mean that we would have a bug in our systems that would go through the event notification process and would be how we would fix and resolve and is a totally different process and team.

Gloria Velez-AT&T asked for confirmation on the published dates they provide at day-90 are the firm dates and are not tentative and/or subject to change.

Dawn Beck-Qwest said that yes the only time it would be tentative is in the event that Qwest is going through, for example, through contract negotiations.

Gloria Velez-AT&T said that she would take this information back to her internal teams and asked when the vote would take place.

Lynn Stecklein-Qwest said that the vote is scheduled on January 21st and to send any questions to CMP CR.

12/17/08 Product/Process CMP Meeting Susan Lorence-Qwest said that we have revised the redline from the feedback we received in the November CMP Meeting. She said that in Section 8.0 under Application to Application OSS Interface we are proposing to add the following: Prior to Retiring the IMA Release, Qwest will confirm with the last CLECs that the migration was completed successfully. She said that we also removed the wording “no later than 30 days prior to the planned retirement date”. Susan said that in Section 8.1.1 Draft Interface Technical Specifications we are proposing to add the following “For IMA Only, Qwest will issue draft Technical Specifications no later than ninety calendar days prior to the implementation date unless an exception has been granted. Susan said that we are also proposing specific to IMA planned available migration dates.

Bonnie Johnson-Integra said that they don’t have questions now but will let us know if they do.

Doug Allen-AT&T said that he will also take this information back and let us know if they have questions.

Samia Majid-Accenture said that they are not thrilled with this change and asked why this change was originated. Susan Lorence-Qwest said that eventually we won’t always be granting a 30 day extension and we want to work towards accommodating the CLECs so that they can migrate earlier.

Susan Lorence-Qwest said that we will propose a vote in the January CMP meeting and we will include this redline.

Mark Coyne-Qwest said that we will address questions from those CLECs that have concerns

11/19/08 Product/Process CMP Meeting Susan Lorence-Qwest said that we discussed this change in last month’s meeting and in the adhoc meeting held on 10/7/08. She said that we have revised the original redline with the new proposed updates. (See redline posted to the Wholesale Calendar) Susan said that in Section 8.0 we left the wording associated with “Qwest standard operating practice…” She said that we had originally proposed a change but left the wording “Qwest will implement no more that four (4) releases”.

Bonnie Johnson-Integra said that she wanted to add the language that “all CLECs agree”.

Mark Coyne-Qwest asked what would be the benefit if all CLECs had migrated off.

Bonnie Johnson-Integra said that Qwest may be having a major issue or the industry may require an additional release and that we had this discussion in the adhoc meeting.

Susan Lorence-Qwest said that we would consider.

Dawn Beck-Qwest said that if there is a problem with the migration we would know by that Sunday (or in 5 days). She said that if we had to roll a CLEC back then they are not considered to have been migrated and will still have to schedule a migration. She also pointed out that we have never rolled back a customer.

Bonnie Johnson-Integra said that she couldn’t imagine why a CLEC wouldn’t agree and asked what the harm is.

Dawn Beck-Qwest said if it would require a CMP vote then there wouldn't be much point due to the timely process, the release would already have retired by the time the vote was taken.

Gloria Velez-AT&T said that the track record is good but that is not a guarantee (11/26/08 Comments to minutes received from Integra) for the future.

Susan Lorence-Qwest said that we could add language that would have the last Carrier migrating send an e-mail with their concurrence and ok.

Jeff Sonnier-Sprint asked if he could no longer skip a release. He said that he did not think any CLEC would be able to skip releases with the 150 + 30 day extension = 180 days.

Dawn Beck-Qwest said that since migrating onto XML, CLECs haven’t been able to skip releases.

Jeff Sonnier-Sprint said that he has.

Dawn Beck-Qwest said that Sprint skipped 20 and with pre-XML went from 17, 19, and 21. Jeff Sonnier-Sprint said that most releases have no impact on Sprint and he likes being able to skip a release so that he isn't wasting resources.

Dawn Beck-Qwest said that with only 2 releases per year you go to the next release and the answer would be no a CLEC will not be able to skip a release.

Susan Lorence-Qwest said that with XML it is easier to migrate to a release. Susan said that the next change is based on feedback and we changed to timeline to 150 days.

Dawn Beck-Qwest said that in most cases you can just change the release number in the TPID section and do a singular order test case when no changes in the IMA release impact the CLECs implemented products. She said that you can’t technically skip releases with the Qwest release test cycle.

Gloria Velez-AT&T said that Qwest is now talking about 150 days.

Dawn Beck-Qwest said that AT&T indicated that they needed the 180 days and Qwest is technically still giving them the 180 days if they need it (150+30 days).

Susan Lorence-Qwest said that any CLEC can submit a CR and we will guarantee an extension of up to 30 days and no vote will be required.

Gloria Velez-AT&T asked if this required a unanimous vote.

Susan Lorence-Qwest said that a vote is required only for a CMP Document language change.

Gloria Velez-AT&T said that there is too much overhead to go through the CR process.

Julia Redman-Carter-McLeodUSA asked if there would ever be a situation when everyone would be migrated prior to the 30 days before the extension requested.

Dawn Beck-Qwest said that every CLEC would be migrated before the retirement of the release.

Julia Redman-Carter-McLeodUSA said if there are multiple migration dates and on day 140 (11/26/08 Comments to minutes received from Integra) a CLEC determines they want a 30 day extension. However, the CLEC didn’t put the request in by day 120 (referring to the required 30 days prior to the 150 day to get the extension) because the CLEC was not migrated prior to day 120 and CLEC did not have an opportunity to determine that they need the extension until the 145th day. Based on the current language , the CLEC may not get the 30 day extension because they didn’t give notice by the 120th day. She said that she would like to see language that would protect the CLEC if they miss the extension notice period or an exception to give them the extension without the 30-day prior notice.

Dawn Beck-Qwest said that she can see the point that Julia was making.

Susan Lorence-Qwest said that we will take this offline to see if there is something that can be done.

Bonnie Johnson-Integra said that they won’t agree with the requirement of the having to submit the request extension by the 120 day deadline.

Susan Lorence-Qwest said that the next change corrected the word “migration” to “implementation in Section 8.0.

Bonnie Johnson-Integra said that they won’t agree to the change on page 1 where the 3 major releases was changed to 2.

CLEC – said that in Section 8.17 it should say unless an extension has been requested.

Susan Lorence-Qwest said that figure 4 has been updated with changes.

Bonnie Johnson-Integra said that you can’t always identify what is going to happen in the future. She said what if Qwest decides to go back to EDI. She said that some CLECs were opposed to XML (11/26/08 Comments to minutes received from Integra) and Qwest implemented it anyway.

She said that Qwest would vote no if the CLECs submitted a CR to change back to the 180 day timeline. She said that several CLECs have said that they need the 180 days but Qwest changed it to 150 days.

Susan Lorence-Qwest said that we are trying to move forward because it is so easier to migrate to XML.

Bonnie Johnson-Integra asked what is gained with the 180 days and what is the benefit if Qwest knows there will always be three CLECs asking for the extension.

Dawn Beck-Qwest said that at some point those CLECs that Integra mentioned will not be asking for an extension. She said that in the beginning of EDI, extensions were always requested but in the last few EDI releases requests for extensions have tapered off and the releases are less impacting.

Bonnie Johnson-Integra said that there used to be 120k hours in a release and now Qwest has reduced the hours to 20k per year. She said that we are not making any headway with the extension.

Susan Lorence-Qwest said that we can regroup to review everyone’s feedback.

Jeff Sonnier-Sprint said that he can live with 150 days.

Gloria Velez-AT&T said that there was some discussion about the length of notification timeframes for business rules and tech specs (73 days)

Dawn Beck-Qwest said that we are not offering that extension anymore because we aren’t looking at the 60 day timeframe.

Susan Lorence-Qwest said that we can look at the migration schedule 90 days prior to the release.

Gloria Velez-AT&T said that Qwest keeps saying that it is ‘easier’ but Qwest does not understand the CLEC side of it. She asked if Qwest has changed the language to provide the cut dates sooner.

Dawn Beck-Qwest said that we don’t have the language out there today.

Gloria Velez-AT&T said that the current process has been working fine and that this change has no benefit to the CLEC.

Dawn Beck-Qwest said that we removed the language requiring the vote for the extension and would be a benefit to the CLEC.

Bonnie Johnson-Integra said that the CLECs are saying that there is no benefit and that there has to be give and take.

Susan Lorence-Qwest disagreed and said that we tried to modify the proposal based on feedback.

Gloria Velez-AT&T asked if there would ever be a timeline where there is only 1 release.

Dawn Beck-Qwest said that there could possibly be 30 days with 1 release.

Mark Coyne-Qwest said that we will regroup and look at next steps.

10/15/08 Product/Process CMP Meeting

Mark Coyne – Qwest stated that this CR was presented in the September CMP Meeting. Susan Lorence – Qwest said that there was an ad hoc call on October 7th and that the proposed changes were reviewed. Susan noted that Qwest is re-evaluating the proposal and options. Susan stated that we are looking at 120 day option instead of the 60 day option. Susan said that we are looking at guaranteeing an extension of 30 days with caveats prior to the sunset date. Susan said that no vote may be required. Susan said that Qwest is looking at posting the migration windows earlier on the Wholesale Calendar. Susan said that if all customers are migrated we are proposing to sunset early. Susan said that we are reviewing the CMP Document and will submit redlines prior to the November meeting and that we may request an adhoc meeting. Susan said that there could be a vote in December CMP Meeting. . Jeff Sonnier – Sprint asked if there was going to be a vote today. Susan Lorence – Qwest said no. Bonnie Johnson – Integra said that if Qwest is proposing to a change to sunset early and is developing language re: if all customers migrate, then there needs to be by a vote and it has to be unanimous. Susan Lorence – Qwest said that we would take a look at that. Bonnie Johnson – Integra said that she wanted to ask the question surrounding the proposal of 120 days. She told Qwest that Qwest should make sure that there are no CLECs that cannot live without the 180 days. Susan Lorence – Qwest said that if that is the case this proposal would be retracted. Jeff Sonnier – Sprint said that he needs 180 days because of their long and drawn out process, Mark Coyne – Qwest stated that he was hearing that Sprint would vote no on anything less then 180 days. Jeff Sonnier – Sprint said that was correct and even with the 180 days they are still scrambling. He said they have to skip a release now. Susan Lorence – Qwest said based on this discussion we need to review internally to see what to do with this CR. Bonnie Johnson – Integra said she was not sure if all of the changes were related to 180 days. Susan Lorence – Qwest said that Qwest would regroup due to today’s discussion. Leilani Hines – Verizon said that she agreed with Sprint and that they need more time and she would vote no on this request. Susan Lorence – Qwest thanked all for the feedback. Gloria Velez – AT&T clarified that the change to the 90 day notice is when you publish 90 days prior to the next release production date and when they go into production from that date that one they would use. Susan Lorence – Qwest stated that the 90 days prior to the next Release production date would be the firm date if we go forward with this CR.

CMP Adhoc Meeting PC090208-01CM Application to Application Support Change – Change to CMP Doc October 7, 2008

Attendees: Kathy Stamps-Level 3, Doug Allen-AT&T, Tim Kagle-Comcast, Kim Isaacs-Integra, Bonnie Johnson-Integra, Julie Stearns-Integra, Loriann Burke- XO Communications, Jim Hickle-Velocity, Dawn Beck-Qwest, Gloria Velez-AT&T, Bennet Pang-Comcast, Cim Chambers-Qwest, Gary Sallee-Qwest, Susan Lorence-Qwest, Lynn Stecklein-Qwest Susan Lorence-Qwest stated that the redline document and matrix that would be discussed in this meeting can be found at: http://www.qwest.com/wholesale/calendar/ Susan Lorence-Qwest stated that with the implementation of XML in 2006and based on Customer feedback, the implementation of a release becomes a much more simplified process. She said that Qwest is proposing shortening the window an old release stays in production after a new release is implemented. She said that changing the implementation timeline would require a change to the CMP Document. She said that an old release now stays in production for 180 days and Qwest is proposing shortening that timeframe to 60 days. She said that in Section 8.0 of the CMP document (Application-to-Application) is cleanup to be more representative of our current practice. Our standard practice for a number of years has been 2 releases per year and a point release if necessary. Bonnie Johnson-Integra said that she has no questions now and understands the change. (10/15/08 Comments to minutes received from Integra) She said she may not agree with the change. Bonnie said she will let Susan explain the changes and then comment rather than commenting on each change. Susan Lorence-Qwest said that we took out segment sentence in the event that IMA major release are implemented more than 6 months apart and with this change the releases will still be implemented approximately 6 months apart. She said that in the sentence that says ‘any CLEC desiring to delay retirement of the previous release’. She said that ‘in the event’ was no longer appropriate. She said that Qwest will review and grant an extension of the planned retirement date up to additional 30 days and our intent is to maintain no more than 2 releases in production at anytime. Gloria Velez-AT&T clarified that if a company wanted to request an extension of an additional 30 days they would have to issue a CR and go through the approval process. Susan Lorence-Qwest said that is the process. Gloria Velez-AT&T confirmed that there is no guarantee with this language that if a customer needed the extension it would be granted and is subject to some type of approval. Cim Chambers-Qwest said there was one instance where this type of request was not granted because the request extended beyond what we were able to support .She said we would have been supporting an additional release in production. She said that it got scaled back and we weren’t able to meet the entire request. Gloria Velez-AT&T said that Qwest maintains no more than 2 major releases in production and was trying to correlate the language to the matrix. She said that when she looks at the proposed chart she did not see how there would be 2 releases up. Susan Lorence-Qwest said that in this instance Qwest will maintain no more than 2 releases. She said that the upcoming release is scheduled on October 20, 2008 and would have IMA 23.0 and IMA 24.0 in production. Gloria Velez-AT&T said that with the new proposal release B comes into play in October and release A goes away in December and when December comes around there is only release B. Lan Nyugen-Neustar said that if you look at next year’s calendar between June and October the only release in production would be IMA 25.0. Susan Lorence-Qwest said that this wording says that we would not have anymore than 2 releases but we don’t guarantee that we would have more than 2 at all times. Gloria Velez-AT&T said that until you implement your next release you will only have 1 release up which is different than what is happening today with the 180 day window. Bennet Pang-Comcast said that with IMA 25.0 and ongoing you would have 60 days with 2 releases at the same time and 120 days with a single release and then 60 days with 2 releases and then 120 days in a single release in that pattern. He said that the language (10/16/08 -Comments to minutes from Comcast) in the CMP Document does not reflect that. Susan Lorence-Qwest said that we can highlight that sentence and consider how we can modify. Leo Dimitriadus-AT&T said that once you implement for example IMA 24.0 you are giving 60 days to move off of IMA 23.0 unless you request an extension and could mean 90 days. He said that he understands the need for Qwest but it may not conform to their schedule. He said that the way Qwest has been doing it so far has worked for them at least from their release schedules. He said that the planning cycle is not the issue it is the release support date that we have to use to upgrade to Qwest release dates. Susan Lorence-Qwest said that we want to discuss all options and would like to get through the changes 1st. She said that the next change is in Section 8.1.7 that is associated with the release documentation addenda to go from 180 days to 60days. She said that there was a sentence at the end of the bullet that says ‘CLEC are not required to support all new releases’. She said that with this proposed change this sentence no longer applies because once the 60 day or with the 90 day extension has occurred every CLEC would have to migrate to each release and there is no chance of skipping a release. Dawn Beck-Qwest said that this sentence is technically not true today. She said that our release schedules are every 6 months and, for example, the CLECs have had to migrate from 22 to 23 they will have to go from 23 to 24. Bonnie Johnson-Integra said that she understood but under the current CMP if it was left at 4 releases and there were regulatory changes and you did do 4 it would be true unless you change that 4 to something else. Dawn Beck-Qwest clarified that it was 3 not 4. Bonnie Johnson-Integra said that the 4 was in the 1st section of 8.0 of the CMP document ‘ unless mandated as a regulatory change, Qwest will implement no more than 4 release per year’. Susan Lorence-Qwest said that the current figure 4 shows the timeline if we were to have 3 releases in a year (180 day timeline). She reviewed the proposed timeline exhibit (see redline for exhibits). Gloria Velez-AT&T said that she had a question on the release B test window. She said that it shows 9/1 to 10/1 and asked if that is when Qwest is expecting all the company’s on XML. Dawn Beck-Qwest said that it is saying that our test window is available 30 days prior to the release date. Gloria Velez-AT&T asked if this was for testing externally. Dawn Beck-Qwest said yes. Gloria Velez-AT&T asked if a CLEC doesn’t take advantage of testing between 9/1 and 10/1 how many test dates or window are there. Dawn Beck-Qwest said that we allow our customers to test at anytime they want and can support everyone at the same time. Gloria Velez-AT&T said with either the 30 or 60 day window the Qwest resources are there today and can support this compressed window. She said the CLEC can pick whatever date to start testing. Dawn Beck-Qwest said yes and that it is the way it is done today. Gloria Velez-AT&T said that there is a big difference today, the window is much larger. Dawn Beck-Qwest said that today, and in the future, the customers can test anytime they want even test outside the schedules. If they have a release on their side and they want to test that change with Qwest, they can file a regression test even though it is not in conjunction with a Qwest release. Susan Lorence-Qwest said that they would work with their IMA contact. Gloria Velez-AT&T said that she was trying to understand with the shortening of days. Dawn Beck-Qwest said that you have 90 days to test unlike other ILECs that restrict the timeframe. Susan Lorence-Qwest clarified that’s the 30 days that’s available in advance of the release production date and the 60 days after in the proposal and if there was a release extension of the prior release granted then there is another 30 days so in effect it is 120 days requested under this current proposal.. She said that this is Qwest’s proposal for change and we are willing to consider other options. She said that we understood that the implementation becomes easier with XML which is why we think this proposal is reasonable. Bennet Pang - Comcast said that if there is no impact to the product (10/15/08 Comments to minutes received from Comcast) used by the CLEC with the new release the minimum he would have to do is change the release number in his application and install the new WSDL provided by Qwest, is this correct. Dawn Beck-Qwest said that is correct and that he would have to send in 1 order regardless of the number of products they have. She said that on pre-order one of each pre-order is needed to test the change. Bennet Pang-Comcast asked how many opportunities of upgrades (10/15/08 Comments to minutes received from Comcast) (meaning mid cycle conversions) do they have within 60 day window. Dawn Beck-Qwest said that Qwest could give concrete (10/15/08 Comments to minutes received from Comcast) dates for mid cycle conversions going forward and is negotiable. Susan Lorence-Qwest said that this may be something we can provide. She said that there would be a minimum of 3 mid cycle dates to allow the opportunity to upgrade and the tentative timeframes would be the 35, 45 and 60. Bennet Pang-Comcast said that is a severe restriction if the duration is only 60 days and you don’t open up all the weekends for mid cycle conversions. Bonnie Johnson-Integra said that there are probably some CLECs that would not agree to the 60 days but may agree to something less than 180. She said that Integra may agree to the 120. Dawn Beck-Qwest asked Integra why they would only agree to 120 when normally Integra mid cycle the very 1st mid cycle date available. Bonnie Johnson-Integra said that it has to do with other changes in the document that they would not agree to and that she is uncertain about what changes may made in the future. She said that this change requires unanimous vote and (10/15/08 Comments to minutes received from Integra) if in the future we need that time back in the past if something changed and we needed more time etc. Qwest would vote no. Bennet Pang-Comcast said that the date is not the only restriction, it is the number of the mid cycle conversions. Bonnie Johnson-Integra asked if this would require additional changes to the document because it is not addressed in the paragraphs that are changing. Dawn Beck-Qwest said that is has never been addressed and we are saying that we could add it in. She said that it would not be feasible to be available every weekend because of other work. Susan Lorence-Qwest said that going back to 8.0 4th paragraph our current practice is to implement 2 major releases and if necessary 2 point release and asked if there was a problem with making this change.She said that this has been the case in the last 3-4 years. Bonnie Johnson-Integra said that they would agree to something like Qwest’s typical practice is to implement 2 major releases and if necessary 2 point releases. Susan Lorence-Qwest said that is a good change and asked if anyone else had any other changes. Bonnie Johnson-Integra said that they are not willing to change the 4 to 2. Susan Lorence-Qwest said that Integra wanted to leave no more than 4. Bonnie Johnson-Integra said that is correct. Susan Lorence-Qwest said that on the App-to-App interface said that we heard from Integra that they would consider the 120 days and asked how everyone else felt. Doug Allen-AT&T said that at this point AT&T could not agree to the 120days and that they prefer no change. He said that he also did not agree that XML is a simplified process from an AT&T perspective. He said that with the coordination of internal releases and resources they can’t agree to any change and that 180 days is the preference. Susan Lorence-Qwest asked if AT&T would consider a phased approach with IMA giving time to plan for that. Doug Allen-AT&T said that they would have to take that back and review the phased approach. Dawn Beck-Qwest asked if AT&T would accept the 120 day with the 30 day available extension which adds up to 180. Doug Allen-AT&T said no because that (the extension) would requires an approval. Dawn Beck-Qwest said that currently AT&T does not go the full 180 days and never has. Gloria Velez-AT&T said that 180 days gives them a buffer and the cut dates Qwest provided they have always had to make adjustment to their schedules. She said that they have specific release timeframes and the 3rd Saturday and Sunday of the month is something that Qwest does not offer. Dawn Beck-Qwest said that that we would be willing to do is provide concrete timelines as to when Qwest would do the mid cycles to help them in planning. Susan Lorence-Qwest said that we could provide the 120 day and guarantee an extension of 30 days if requested and we would provide the mid cycle dates. Gloria Velez-AT&T said that they would have to take this proposal back internally. She asked at what point in this timeline would the mid cycle dates be provided. Dawn Beck-Qwest said that we could take a look at that and asked Susan when we publish our calendar. Susan Lorence-Qwest said we could include it in with the 73 day notification when we send the tech specs. Bennet Pang-Comcast said that (10/15/08 Comments to minutes received from Comcast) the mid cycle conversion dates should be provided when Qwest publishes the release schedule the test windows and the production date is provided.

Susan Lorence-Qwest said that when we submit our draft tech specs 73 days in advance of the release production date we could provide the (10/15/08 Comments to minutes received from Comcast) mid cycle conversion dates. Bennet Pang-Comcast said that would work for Comcast. Bonnie Johnson-Integra asked if Qwest was going to do a new proposal for the CLECs to look at. Susan Lorence-Qwest said that we would consider doing a new proposal based on the feedback and said that if there were too many caveats it would not be as beneficial for Qwest either. We want to make it a collaborative approach on both sides. She said that AT&T can’t agree on anything less than 120 days and that we want to make sure we have all the parameters that might make it more beneficial. CLEC-asked what AT&T’s current policy was re: upgrades and timeframes. He said that what Qwest is asking for is similar to what AT&T’s methods and procedures He asked asked why AT&T could not agree to this change. Bonnie Johnson-Integra said that this question was way off base and that we are in a wholesale discussion with AT&T wholesale people and that this was not an appropriate question. CLEC - said that he thought it was an appropriate question especially since we are delaying things because of one person having that opportunity. He said that there is some standardization that should happen in this environment and if you have one company disagreeing it gets turned down. He said that there is a lot of discussion re: this change and no one even takes 180 days for this process. Gloria Velez-AT&T said that the statement that AT&T has not taken 180 days is not true. Dawn Beck-Qwest said that we have never had a mid cycle at 180 days before. Susan Lorence-Qwest asked if there were any other suggestions beside the phased approach and the mid cycle dates Bonnie Johnson-Integra said that Qwest changed the word migration in the app-to-app interface paragraph and said that they want it retained as migration. She asked Qwest to identify the reason we did that when we do the new proposal Dawn Beck-Qwest said that the reason was because there was a typo in the document. She said out practice is that if a CLEC fails to migrate and we remove them from the electronic order processing, they have to do a new implementation to get back into it. Bonnie Johnson-Integra said she would like to see how this lined up with their ICA. Dawn Beck-Qwest said that she did not know what was in their ICA but when a customer fails to migrate and the release retires they have to do a new implementation. Susan Lorence-Qwest said it was more of a cleanup. Bonnie Johnson-Integra said she would take this back and review. She that they won’t agree to omit the sentence ‘the CLECs are not required to support all new releases’ . She said the reasoning is that if Qwest has a regulatory release they don’t agree that it should count towards the 2 releases. There could be an opportunity to have more than 1 release per year. She said that Qwest may have a regulatory commitment they need to meet that is outside of the scheduled releases and would have to do an additional release. Susan Lorence-Qwest said like the LNP Port release. She asked if there were any other ideas to move past the 180 days to something shortened other than a phased approach. Gloria Velez-AT&T said that historically Qwest has been doing releases in April and October. She said that in the matrix provided using the 60 day example, there would be a sunset occurring in December. She said that December is a tough month because there are a lot of code freezes and blackout dates. Dawn Beck-Qwest said that we are not changing when we would be doing our releases. Gloria Velez-AT&T said that she wants to avoid a sunset at the end of the year. Susan Lorence-Qwest said that was a good point but that we really don’t have that condition since it does not look like the 60 days timeline will get approved and that there won’t be a sunset in December. Gloria Velez-AT&T said unless you go off your April and October schedule. Susan Lorence-Qwest said that we would consider all feedback with the new proposal.

9/17/08 Product/Process CMP Meeting

Susan Lorence-Qwest said that this is a change to the CMP Document. Qwest implemented XML to replace EDI in October of 2006 and with the implementation of XML installing the next upgrade to IMA became a simplified process. She said that because of that, Qwest is proposing that we change from the current 180 days to keep a release up to a 60 day timeline. She said that we are also proposing to change how long a release can be extended. She said clean up language is included to support our standard operating practice since 2004 of only having 2 releases per year. She said that we would like to have an adhoc meeting if there is enough interest. Gloria Velez-AT&T said that she has not had an opportunity to review the documents in detail and asked if a timeline using the current example could be provided to make the language clear. She said that Qwest is implementing IMA 24.0 on 10/20/08 and at some point IMA 23.0 would have to be retired and IMA 25.0 would have to come on board Susan Lorence-Qwest said that we could provide a timeline using this example. She that we are not proposing any changes to IMA 23.0. She said that this change would occur with the implementation of IMA 25.0 on April 20, 2009. She said that if we get agreement on this change, IMA 24.0 would be retired on June 20, 2009 which is 60 days after IMA 25.0 goes in vs. 180 days. Gloria Velez-AT&T said that IMA 25.0 would become available in April of 09 and IMA 24.0 would retire in June of 09 giving them only 60 days to move forward. She asked what constitutes agreement to make this change. Susan Lorence-Qwest said a vote is conducted in the October meeting on the changes to this language and a unanimous vote is required. Gloria Velez-AT&T asked if there is one carrier having difficulty with this timeframe and votes no what happens to the request. Susan Lorence-Qwest said that the change does not get implemented. She said that if there is any concern regarding this request an adhoc meeting can be held to possibly modify any of these changes to make it agreeable to everyone. Bonnie Johnson-Integra said that in the redline changes there are more changes that just changing 3 to 2 releases. She said that she knows Integra would not agree on one of the last deletions in Section 8.1.7 that states CLECs are not required to support all new releases. Susan Lorence-Qwest said that we removed that point because it becomes a given that each CLEC would have to go to the next release because you can’t jump releases any longer. She said that we will schedule an adhoc meeting to review each of the proposed changes. She said that all of the related changes are associated to the proposed change of going from 180 to 60 days. Gloria Velez-AT&T asked if this was the 1st time this information was being presented to the CLEC Community. Susan Lorence-Qwest said yes. Gloria Velez-AT&T asked Qwest if Qwest presented the request in September and your expectation is to vote on the change the following month. Susan Lorence-Qwest said that would be the 1st possible chance to vote on it if there are no questions. Gloria Velez-AT&T said that expectation is a bit much and short and said that they would like an adhoc meeting.